32 vs 64bit benchmarking

[Instigater]

Nolēmu vakarā nedaudz pabenčmarkot savu dzelzi:
Sempron 2500+ @ 2.2Ghz
DFI maacplate nF3 250GB
A-Data 1GB RAM @ 200Mhz 4-3-3-8@1T

Softs:
32bit versija - Gentoo linux 2005.1 Universal CD startēts no CD (neuztraucieties, programmas ielādes ātrums šajā testā neko nenosaka), kernelis 2.6.12
OpenSSL 0.9.7e
64bit versija - Gentoo linux 2005.1 atjaunināts līdz pēdējām versijām, startēts no HDD, kernelis 2.6.15-r5
OpenSSL 0.9.7e

Kādēļ uzsāku testu - pavisam vienkārši, kaut kā izlikās, kamēr startē pirmoreiz SSH, ka 64bit OS uzģenerēja atslēdziņas ātrāk nekā 32bitīgais.

Nemocīšu daudz, bet teikšu uzreiz - sagaidīju to, par ko bija nojausma. Softs, optimizēts prieksh 64bit arhitektūras sasit vienos vārtos 32bitu versijas. Jāatceras gan, ka vienkārši pārkompilējot softu uz 64bitiem, tur nekas labs nesanāks, jo nebūs izmantotas īpašās instrukcijas. Iespaidīgi, vai ne, it īpaši, ka jaudas pieaugums ir mērāms nevis procentos, bet reizēs, sākot no divām, līdz pat 3,5 reizēm ātrāk nekā analogs 32 bitu procesors. :o
http://warez.itpeople.lv/webshare/hack.nite.lv/32vs64/openssl.gif

Labprāt gribētu redzēt, kā performē Athlon64, Intel EMT64 un citi 64bit procesori dotajā testā. Gaidu interesantu pavērsienus, it īpaši no Intel ļaužu puses. :D
Tie, kam pašiem patīk rēķināt, rekur būs arī neapstrādāti dati.

32bit
livecd root # openssl speed rsa dsa
Doing 512 bit private rsa's for 10s: 19957 512 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit public rsa's for 10s: 221882 512 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit private rsa's for 10s: 4495 1024 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit public rsa's for 10s: 85015 1024 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: 799 2048 bit private RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 2048 bit public rsa's for 10s: 27602 2048 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 4096 bit private rsa's for 10s: 126 4096 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 4096 bit public rsa's for 10s: 8090 4096 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 25166 512 bit DSA signs in 9.99s
Doing 512 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 20934 512 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 9401 1024 bit DSA signs in 9.99s
Doing 1024 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 7765 1024 bit DSA verify in 9.99s
Doing 2048 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 3012 2048 bit DSA signs in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 2460 2048 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004
built on: Fri Jul 22 18:44:25 Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page 2005
options:bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) aes(partial) idea(int) blowfish(idx)
compiler: i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -fPIC -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DOPENSSL_NO_KRB5 -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -Wall -O2 -mcpu=i686 -Wa,--noexecstack -DSHA1_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM
available timing options: TIMES TIMEB HZ=100 [sysconf value]
timing function used: times
sign verify sign/s verify/s
rsa 512 bits 0.0005s 0.0000s 1905.8 21682.0
rsa 1024 bits 0.0023s 0.0001s 442.1 8459.0
rsa 2048 bits 0.0124s 0.0004s 80.6 2783.3
rsa 4096 bits 0.0791s 0.0012s 12.6 816.9
sign verify sign/s verify/s
dsa 512 bits 0.0004s 0.0005s 2566.5 2034.0
dsa 1024 bits 0.0011s 0.0013s 921.5 758.7
dsa 2048 bits 0.0034s 0.0041s 293.4 241.1
livecd root # cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 44
model name : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2500+
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 2197.884
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni
bogomips : 4358.14

64bit
bloo ~ # openssl speed rsa dsa
Doing 512 bit private rsa's for 10s: 43815 512 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit public rsa's for 10s: 502337 512 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit private rsa's for 10s: 13624 1024 bit private RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 1024 bit public rsa's for 10s: 226404 1024 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: 2608 2048 bit private RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 2048 bit public rsa's for 10s: 84091 2048 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 4096 bit private rsa's for 10s: 423 4096 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 4096 bit public rsa's for 10s: 26087 4096 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 70109 512 bit DSA signs in 9.99s
Doing 512 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 61261 512 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 29073 1024 bit DSA signs in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 24183 1024 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 9794 2048 bit DSA signs in 10.01s
Doing 2048 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 8167 2048 bit DSA verify in 10.01s
OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004
built on: Sun Nov 13 16:59:46 Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page 2005
options:bn(64,64) md2(int) rc4(ptr,char) des(idx,cisc,16,int) aes(partial) idea(int) blowfish(ptr2)
compiler: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -fPIC -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DOPENSSL_NO_KRB5 -m64 -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -Wall -DMD32_REG_T=int -O2
available timing options: TIMES TIMEB HZ=100 [sysconf value]
timing function used: times
sign verify sign/s verify/s
rsa 512 bits 0.0002s 0.0000s 4381.5 50233.7
rsa 1024 bits 0.0007s 0.0000s 1361.0 22640.4
rsa 2048 bits 0.0038s 0.0001s 260.5 8409.1
rsa 4096 bits 0.0236s 0.0004s 42.3 2608.7
sign verify sign/s verify/s
dsa 512 bits 0.0001s 0.0002s 7017.9 6126.1
dsa 1024 bits 0.0003s 0.0004s 2907.3 2418.3
dsa 2048 bits 0.0010s 0.0012s 978.4 815.9
bloo ~ # cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 44
model name : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2500+
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 2198.206
cache size : 256 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni
bogomips : 4401.08
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc

[Kasparz]

Jau esmu "iegādājies" W2k3 server 64bit, lai varētu benčot normāli, nevis verot ciet ~20 procesus :D

[mrlobber]

Jau esmu "iegādājies" W2k3 server 64bit, lai varētu benčot normāli, nevis verot ciet ~20 procesus :D

3dmark 64bitu versiju arī esi atradis? :p

[artissco]

3dmark 64bitu versiju arī esi atradis? :pbuutu baigi jauki ja taada buutu :D

[Kasparz]

3dmark 64bitu versiju arī esi atradis? :p
Es domāju Spi :D

[brx]

a taa 64bit versija ir uz live CD?

[Instigater]

var dabuut arii livecd ;-)

[brx]

iemet linku ja tas ir bezmaksas, me tarii ja maksas :D
gribas notestet uz sava pc ;)

[kiwi]

Man slinkums instalēt abus linux. Varu izlaist uz knoppix 32bit un cita 64bit

Ja vajag liveCD 64bit, reku piemēram ir kubuntu
http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/kubuntu/5.10/

Vispār intereses pēc varētu izlaist arī uz kaut kādiem Risc, Itanium un sparc, tikai tur visi būs 64bit

[deff_ins]

es nesapratu kur tur kas ir 32bitu un kas 64???

[Instigater]

deff_ins, taa jau ir procentuaalaa attieciiba, 32bit ir 100 procenti, 2xx un 3xx jau ir 64bit procenti, tobish divas un triis reizes aatraaks nekaa 32bit versija. Ja gribi absoluutos skaitljus, tad iemet aci neapstraadaatajos datos. Pie reizes var saliidzinaat CPU aritmeetisko veiktspeeju.
Shodien darbaa notesteeju 3Ghz Xeon un P4 3.4Ghz
Xeon
rsa 4096 bits signs/s bija ~5.6
P4 3.4Ghz tas pats jau bija ~6.1

No taa mees secinaam, ka kriptograafijai Xeoni nafig nav vajadziigi, un veel, no taa secinaam, ka pat 2.2Ghz Sempron 32bit modee ir 2.2 reizes aatraaks, bet 64bit modee veselas 7.5 reizes aatraaks nekaa P4 3Ghz Xeon.

Gribeeju shodien notesteet ar HP-UX uz PA-RISC 64bit 750Mhz procesora, bet tur nebija OpenSSL un uz taa serva es to netaisos likt.

[brx]

vai W2k3 server 64bit ietilpst vienaa parastajaa CD? viens tiek paslaik "iegadats" no DC++ :D , bet neesmu parliecinaats vai setupam nevajag velkadu CD

ka isti japalizj tas tests uz linuxa? esmu liels noobs linux jomaa :p
(neesmu vel noka4ajis live cd), vai prosta japalaizj OpenSSL proga?

[Instigater]

brx, paskaties neapstraadaatajos datos, tur tu ieraudziisi kaada komanda jaapalaizj, lai saaktos benchmark.

Otra lieta, nobenchoju savu noti, tiesa, shamaa ir tikai 32bit, toties Pentium M
ebuss-note ~ # openssl speed rsa dsa
Doing 512 bit private rsa's for 10s: 14443 512 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit public rsa's for 10s: 155325 512 bit public RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 1024 bit private rsa's for 10s: 2909 1024 bit private RSA's in 9.96s
Doing 1024 bit public rsa's for 10s: 54527 1024 bit public RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: 487 2048 bit private RSA's in 10.02s
Doing 2048 bit public rsa's for 10s: 16624 2048 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 4096 bit private rsa's for 10s: 74 4096 bit private RSA's in 10.12s
Doing 4096 bit public rsa's for 10s: 4730 4096 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 17516 512 bit DSA signs in 10.01s
Doing 512 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 14444 512 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 5892 1024 bit DSA signs in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 4883 1024 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 1764 2048 bit DSA signs in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 1428 2048 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004
built on: Wed Nov 9 18:03:13 Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page 2005
options:bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) aes(partial) idea(int) blowfish(idx)
compiler: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -fPIC -DZLIB_SHARED -DZLIB -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DOPENSSL_NO_KRB5 -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -Wall -O2 -march=pentium3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -Wa,--noexecstack -DSHA1_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM
available timing options: TIMES TIMEB HZ=100 [sysconf value]
timing function used: times
sign verify sign/s verify/s
rsa 512 bits 0.0007s 0.0001s 1444.3 15517.0
rsa 1024 bits 0.0034s 0.0002s 292.1 5447.3
rsa 2048 bits 0.0206s 0.0006s 48.6 1662.4
rsa 4096 bits 0.1368s 0.0021s 7.3 473.0
sign verify sign/s verify/s
dsa 512 bits 0.0006s 0.0007s 1749.9 1444.4
dsa 1024 bits 0.0017s 0.0020s 589.2 488.3
dsa 2048 bits 0.0057s 0.0070s 176.4 142.8
ebuss-note ~ # cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 13
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz
stepping : 8
cpu MHz : 1867.077
cache size : 2048 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe nx est tm2
bogomips : 3740.82

[Instigater]

Man slinkums instalēt abus linux. Varu izlaist uz knoppix 32bit un cita 64bit

Jaa, visi Linux iekshaa ir vienaadi, atshkjiras tikai failu novietojums un paaris distributiiva specializeetaas utiliitas, bet kuraam lieliski vareetu iztikt. Galvenais, lai peec iespeejas svaigaaks OpenSSL buutu uzlikts, jo redzeeju 2 gadiiju 32 vs 64 bitu benchmarku uz Sparc, bet tur 64 bitu versija tikai bija aatraaka tikai tik, cik melns aiz naga.

[brx]

cik sapratu tad japalizj shada komanda:
openssl speed rsa dsa
pareizi?

[Instigater]

tiesshi taa un peec tam veel cat /proc/cpuinfo, lai citi redz, kas tev par proci

[brx]

eh, mans lenais pDSL :mad: vel jakachaa tas CD kadas 6h :mad:
kadus rezultatus vares dabut no manis ne atrak kaa ritvakar...

[kiwi]

Izlaidu uz 3Ghz opteron, starpība 3x aptuveni :D

32bit knoppix

knoppix@1[knoppix]$ openssl speed rsa dsa
Doing 512 bit private rsa's for 10s: 26670 512 bit private RSA's in 9.99s
Doing 512 bit public rsa's for 10s: 293746 512 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit private rsa's for 10s: 6188 1024 bit private RSA's in 9.99s
Doing 1024 bit public rsa's for 10s: 115254 1024 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: 1101 2048 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit public rsa's for 10s: 37591 2048 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 4096 bit private rsa's for 10s: 170 4096 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 4096 bit public rsa's for 10s: 10896 4096 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 33629 512 bit DSA signs in 9.82s
Doing 512 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 29589 512 bit DSA verify in 9.99s
Doing 1024 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 12657 1024 bit DSA signs in 9.95s
Doing 1024 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 10545 1024 bit DSA verify in 9.99s
Doing 2048 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 4021 2048 bit DSA signs in 9.98s
Doing 2048 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 3229 2048 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004
built on: Fri Dec 17 08:45:11 UTC 2004
options:bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) aes(partial) blowfish(idx)
compiler: gcc -fPIC -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DOPENSSL_NO_KRB5 -DOPENSSL_NO_IDEA -DOPENSSL_NO_MDC2 -DOPENSSL_NO_RC5 -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -O3 -march=i686 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DSHA1_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM
available timing options: TIMES TIMEB HZ=100 [sysconf value]
timing function used: times
sign verify sign/s verify/s
rsa 512 bits 0.0004s 0.0000s 2669.7 29374.6
rsa 1024 bits 0.0016s 0.0001s 619.4 11525.4
rsa 2048 bits 0.0091s 0.0003s 110.1 3759.1
rsa 4096 bits 0.0588s 0.0009s 17.0 1089.6
sign verify sign/s verify/s
dsa 512 bits 0.0003s 0.0003s 3424.5 2961.9
dsa 1024 bits 0.0008s 0.0009s 1272.1 1055.6
dsa 2048 bits 0.0025s 0.0031s 402.9 322.9
knoppix@1[knoppix]$ cat /proc/cpu*
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 39
model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 146
stepping : 1
cpu MHz : 3000.881
cache size : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 1
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni syscall nx mmxextfxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm
bogomips : 5947.39





64bit ubuntu

root@nf4:~# openssl speed rsa dsa
Doing 512 bit private rsa's for 10s: 57566 512 bit private RSA's in 9.77s
Doing 512 bit public rsa's for 10s: 675507 512 bit public RSA's in 9.99s
Doing 1024 bit private rsa's for 10s: 18540 1024 bit private RSA's in 9.98s
Doing 1024 bit public rsa's for 10s: 298006 1024 bit public RSA's in 9.88s
Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: 3540 2048 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit public rsa's for 10s: 111320 2048 bit public RSA's in 9.89s
Doing 4096 bit private rsa's for 10s: 570 4096 bit private RSA's in 9.88s
Doing 4096 bit public rsa's for 10s: 35108 4096 bit public RSA's in 9.86s
Doing 512 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 94328 512 bit DSA signs in 9.91s
Doing 512 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 79620 512 bit DSA verify in 9.89s
Doing 1024 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 39083 1024 bit DSA signs in 9.94s
Doing 1024 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 33200 1024 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 13282 2048 bit DSA signs in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 10897 2048 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
OpenSSL 0.9.7g 11 Apr 2005
built on: Wed Aug 24 09:48:47 BST 2005
options:bn(64,64) md2(int) rc4(ptr,char) des(idx,cisc,16,int) aes(partial) blowfish(ptr2)
compiler: gcc -fPIC -DZLIB_SHARED -DZLIB -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DOPENSSL_NO_KRB5 -DOPENSSL_NO_IDEA -DOPENSSL_NO_MDC2 -DOPENSSL_NO_RC5 -m64 -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -O3 -Wall -DMD32_REG_T=int
available timing options: TIMES TIMEB HZ=100 [sysconf value]
timing function used: times
sign verify sign/s verify/s
rsa 512 bits 0.0002s 0.0000s 5892.1 67618.3
rsa 1024 bits 0.0005s 0.0000s 1857.7 30162.6
rsa 2048 bits 0.0028s 0.0001s 354.0 11255.8
rsa 4096 bits 0.0173s 0.0003s 57.7 3560.6
sign verify sign/s verify/s
dsa 512 bits 0.0001s 0.0001s 9518.5 8050.6
dsa 1024 bits 0.0003s 0.0003s 3931.9 3320.0
dsa 2048 bits 0.0008s 0.0009s 1328.2 1089.7
root@nf4:~# cat /proc/cpu*
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 39
model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 146
stepping : 1
cpu MHz : 3000.772
cache size : 1024 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm
bogomips : 5947.39
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp

[artissco]

njaa, rezultaatu atshkjiriiba ir graujosha... aatraak paraadiitos kkas uz win ar 64bit... piem Photoshop vai VirtualDub :P buutu kaifs straadaat

[brx]

butu tads kaifs, ka darbotos uz to jauno 64bit progu bez jeegas un priecatos cik atri vis notiek :D

kiwi kads tev knoppix? man ir viens ar versiju 3.9, vai tev ir kads jaunaaks?

[kiwi]

Man liekas, ka arī 3.9, bet tam nav nozīmes, visi 32bit sux :p

Vispār ir jautājums cik daudz openssl ir svarīgs cpu cache un RAM frekvence un taimingi un vai viens process spēj arī izmantot SMP vai tomēr jālaiž ir vairāki procesi

Tipa es laidu 3Ghz 1MB cache 250 ddr 2-2-2-5, kas ir diezgan agresīvi :) Tiesa man ir tikai 1cpu, a serverim varbūt ļoti daudz, desmitos un tad vēl threading un multi core cpu :)

[Instigater]

cik es zinu, tad shamais izmanto tikai vienu virtuaalo procesoru, taa kaa savaa zinaa Intel rezultaati nav nemaz tik graujoshi, bet tomeer stabili zaudeejoshi AMD sisteemaam :-)

[kiwi]

Žēl, ka jaunajam Yonah nebūs 64bit support, būtu interesanti apskatīt. Toties Conroe tāds būs un tas cpu būs arī graujošs no Intel, tāpat kā Yonah

[Instigater]

Esmu no AMD saimes, bet vai tad nebija taa, ka tagad P4 pat ir 64bit supports? Ja taa, tad vajag arii uz shamaa izgriezt benchus.

[brx]

jeee, vel 30 min jaka4aa kubuntu live cd 64bit un tad jacep matricaa :D
otrs linux, 32bit bus knoppix 3.9

[kiwi]

Jaunajiem P4 ir emt64, kas tipa emulē 64bit vai kaut kā tā. Vienvārdsakot 64bit OS ies, bet performēs laikam nepārāk labi.

[Instigater]

Cik man zinaams, tad EM64T ir tas pats kas AMD64 miinuss divas powersaving instrukcijas. Ljoti gribu, lai kaads nobenchmarko shitaadu Intel. Da kaut vai Jaanjnah tikai 32bitos.

[brx]

tas jaunais kubuntu 64bit man raada sho:

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ openssl speed rsa dsa
bash: openssl: command not found
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ openssl
bash: openssl: command not found
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
:mad:

[kiwi]

A tur nemaz openssl nav iekšā

Vai nu jāliek parastā distribūcija 64bit vai jāmeklē live CD 64bit ar openssl vai arī jākompilē esošajā live CD klāt, bet tas līdz pirmajam restart.

Es pačekošu kurā live CD 64bit ir openssl, bet vispār it kā jābūt, jo bez tā SSH varētu būt probzas

EDIT:
Šite package listā ir openssl, pats intereses pēc šito nočekošu
http://kanotix.com/Downloads.html

[brx]

butu labi ja to openssl varetu piedabut klat uz taa livecd, tas nekas ka pec restarta pazudiis (jacer ka nevajadzes restartu lai openssl saktu darboties), galvenais jau ir sho 1 testu izlaist, salidzinashanai

[Instigater]

brx, iespeejams, ka taveejam livecd ir iipashiiba, ka openssl ir tiesiigs starteet tikai root lietotaajs, taa kaa saakumaa paarbaudi sho variantu.

[brx]

izskataas ka ir kaa kiwi saka, ka openssl nemaz tur nav iekshaa :mad:

[Instigater]

atvelc gentoo install CD, tur shamais ir iekshaa un pati CD image ir tikai ~100Mb

[brx]

vai no shas adreses:
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml
no Gentoo 2006.0 Minimal CD/InstallCD
man ir jakachaa amd64? vai cits 64? laikam aju amd64, ne?

edit:
tas amd64 aiznjem 45MB :D

[Instigater]

jaa, tavaa gadiijumaa AMD

[brx]

nu taa, beidzot esmu sanjemies ieposteet savus rezultatus.
testeju Knoppix 3.9 32bit LiveCD vs. SuSE 10.1 beta9 x86_64 no HDD


Knoppix 3.9 32bit LiveCD
Doing 512 bit private rsa's for 10s: 20045 512 bit private RSA's in 9.99s
Doing 512 bit public rsa's for 10s: 228744 512 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit private rsa's for 10s: 4697 1024 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit public rsa's for 10s: 89328 1024 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: 848 2048 bit private RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 2048 bit public rsa's for 10s: 29161 2048 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 4096 bit private rsa's for 10s: 133 4096 bit private RSA's in 10.06s
Doing 4096 bit public rsa's for 10s: 8527 4096 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 26804 512 bit DSA signs in 9.86s
Doing 512 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 23376 512 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 9842 1024 bit DSA signs in 9.95s
Doing 1024 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 8431 1024 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 3109 2048 bit DSA signs in 9.98s
Doing 2048 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 2555 2048 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
OpenSSL 0.9.7g 11 Apr 2005
built on: Tue May 10 05:31:39 UTC 2005
options:bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) aes(partial) blowfish(idx)
compiler: gcc -fPIC -DZLIB_SHARED -DZLIB -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DOPENSSL_NO_KRB5 -DOPENSSL_NO_IDEA -DOPENSSL_NO_MDC2 -DOPENSSL_NO_RC5 -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -O3 -march=i686 -mcpu=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DSHA1_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM
available timing options: TIMES TIMEB HZ=100 [sysconf value]
timing function used: times
sign verify sign/s verify/s
rsa 512 bits 0.0005s 0.0000s 2006.5 22874.4
rsa 1024 bits 0.0021s 0.0001s 469.7 8932.8
rsa 2048 bits 0.0118s 0.0003s 84.7 2916.1
rsa 4096 bits 0.0756s 0.0012s 13.2 852.7
sign verify sign/s verify/s
dsa 512 bits 0.0004s 0.0004s 2718.5 2337.6
dsa 1024 bits 0.0010s 0.0012s 989.1 843.1
dsa 2048 bits 0.0032s 0.0039s 311.5 255.5
knoppix@1[src]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 44
model name : AMD Hammer Family processor - Model Unknown
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 2303.046
cache size : 256 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 1
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni
bogomips : 4554.75

knoppix@1[src]$


SuSE 10.1 beta9
Doing 512 bit private rsa's for 10s: 37992 512 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit public rsa's for 10s: 500067 512 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit private rsa's for 10s: 10117 1024 bit private RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 1024 bit public rsa's for 10s: 195927 1024 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: 1882 2048 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit public rsa's for 10s: 64647 2048 bit public RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 4096 bit private rsa's for 10s: 289 4096 bit private RSA's in 10.02s
Doing 4096 bit public rsa's for 10s: 19607 4096 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 57721 512 bit DSA signs in 10.01s
Doing 512 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 48732 512 bit DSA verify in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 22343 1024 bit DSA signs in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 18496 1024 bit DSA verify in 10.01s
Doing 2048 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 7147 2048 bit DSA signs in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 5884 2048 bit DSA verify in 10.01s
OpenSSL 0.9.8a 11 Oct 2005
built on: Mon Mar 27 16:32:41 UTC 2006
options:bn(64,64) md2(int) rc4(ptr,int) des(idx,cisc,4,long) aes(partial) blowfish(idx)
compiler: gcc -fPIC -DOPENSSL_PIC -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DL_ENDIAN -DNO_ASM -O2 -fmessage-length=0 -Wall -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -g -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -DTERMIO -Wall -fstack-protector -fbranch-probabilities
available timing options: TIMES TIMEB HZ=100 [sysconf value]
timing function used: times
sign verify sign/s verify/s
rsa 512 bits 0.000263s 0.000020s 3799.2 50006.7
rsa 1024 bits 0.000989s 0.000051s 1010.7 19592.7
rsa 2048 bits 0.005313s 0.000155s 188.2 6458.2
rsa 4096 bits 0.034671s 0.000510s 28.8 1960.7
sign verify sign/s verify/s
dsa 512 bits 0.000173s 0.000205s 5766.3 4873.2
dsa 1024 bits 0.000448s 0.000541s 2234.3 1847.8
dsa 2048 bits 0.001399s 0.001701s 714.7 587.8
linux64:~ # cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 44
model name : AMD Hammer Family processor - Model Unknown
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 2303.122
cache size : 256 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni
bogomips : 4611.25
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc

linux64:~ #

un te tabula ar salidzinajumu par cik procentiem atrak rukaa 64bit uz katru testu:

http://www.eoz.lv/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=296&stc=1&d=1145991718

[Nexodus]

Nu ko tik zitētiski? Nokompiļojam apaci un aidā jūriņā - ar ab testējam 32 bitu versiju un 64 bitu versiju. openssl key`us neģenerēsi ik sekundes.

[brx]

Nu ko tik zitētiski? Nokompiļojam apaci un aidā jūriņā - ar ab testējam 32 bitu versiju un 64 bitu versiju. openssl key`us neģenerēsi ik sekundes.
vai nevaretu biki skaidraak? :confused: ko nozimee zitetiski? kas tas par ab? :D

[brx]

te vel dazi "benchi" ar john the ripper 1.7.0.2 :D

shamaa proga optimizeta prieksh MMX konstrukcijas, jagaida kad taa maces izmantot 64bit :

uz windows XP
http://www.eoz.lv/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=297&stc=1&d=1145998358

Knoppix 3.9 LiveCD 32bit, kompileets tur pat uz knoppixa
http://www.eoz.lv/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=298&stc=1&d=1145998358

SuSE 10.1 beta9, kompileets prieksh x86_64 linuxa
http://www.eoz.lv/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=299&stc=1&d=1145998358

[Instigater]

3.06Ghz P4 Xeon ieksh 32bit modes, viens threads
bronza ~ # openssl speed rsa dsa
Doing 512 bit private rsa's for 10s: 12581 512 bit private RSA's in 9.24s
Doing 512 bit public rsa's for 10s: 140537 512 bit public RSA's in 9.21s
Doing 1024 bit private rsa's for 10s: 2454 1024 bit private RSA's in 9.20s
Doing 1024 bit public rsa's for 10s: 47519 1024 bit public RSA's in 9.24s
Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: 413 2048 bit private RSA's in 9.23s
Doing 2048 bit public rsa's for 10s: 14201 2048 bit public RSA's in 9.21s
Doing 4096 bit private rsa's for 10s: 61 4096 bit private RSA's in 9.31s
Doing 4096 bit public rsa's for 10s: 3990 4096 bit public RSA's in 9.23s
Doing 512 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 14516 512 bit DSA signs in 9.20s
Doing 512 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 11964 512 bit DSA verify in 9.25s
Doing 1024 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 4901 1024 bit DSA signs in 9.23s
Doing 1024 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 4062 1024 bit DSA verify in 9.26s
Doing 2048 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 1471 2048 bit DSA signs in 9.23s
Doing 2048 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 1206 2048 bit DSA verify in 9.25s
OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004
built on: Wed Oct 19 19:03:30 Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page 2005
options:bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) aes(partial) idea(int) blowfish(idx)
compiler: i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -fPIC -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DOPENSSL_NO_KRB5 -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -Wall -Os -mcpu=i686 -pipe -Wa,--noexecstack -DSHA1_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM
available timing options: TIMES TIMEB HZ=100 [sysconf value]
timing function used: times
sign verify sign/s verify/s
rsa 512 bits 0.0007s 0.0001s 1361.6 15259.2
rsa 1024 bits 0.0037s 0.0002s 266.7 5142.7
rsa 2048 bits 0.0223s 0.0006s 44.7 1541.9
rsa 4096 bits 0.1526s 0.0023s 6.6 432.3
sign verify sign/s verify/s
dsa 512 bits 0.0006s 0.0008s 1577.8 1293.4
dsa 1024 bits 0.0019s 0.0023s 531.0 438.7
dsa 2048 bits 0.0063s 0.0077s 159.4 130.4

bronza ~ # cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 15
model : 2
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.06GHz
stepping : 9
cpu MHz : 3056.935
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 3
siblings : 2
core id : 0
cpu cores : 1
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr
bogomips : 6124.31

processor : 1
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 15
model : 2
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.06GHz
stepping : 9
cpu MHz : 3056.935
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 3
siblings : 2
core id : 0
cpu cores : 1
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr
bogomips : 6113.37

un tagad uz taas pashas kastes vienlaiciigi palaisti divi procesi. Abiem procesiem performances starpiiba nebija lielaaka kaa 3%, rezultaataa droshi peedeejo reizinam ar divi. Interesanti, ka ieguustam to pashu, kaa vienaa procesaa. Taatad no taa secinam, ka Intel Hyper Threading ir tikai un vieniigi marketinga triks.
bronza ~ # openssl speed rsa dsa
Doing 512 bit private rsa's for 10s: 7550 512 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit public rsa's for 10s: 80159 512 bit public RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 1024 bit private rsa's for 10s: 1404 1024 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit public rsa's for 10s: 26912 1024 bit public RSA's in 9.91s
Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: 234 2048 bit private RSA's in 10.03s
Doing 2048 bit public rsa's for 10s: 7920 2048 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 4096 bit private rsa's for 10s: 35 4096 bit private RSA's in 10.11s
Doing 4096 bit public rsa's for 10s: 2223 4096 bit public RSA's in 9.99s
Doing 512 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 8284 512 bit DSA signs in 9.87s
Doing 512 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 6512 512 bit DSA verify in 9.33s
Doing 1024 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 2800 1024 bit DSA signs in 9.85s
Doing 1024 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 2307 1024 bit DSA verify in 9.95s
Doing 2048 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 756 2048 bit DSA signs in 8.97s
Doing 2048 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 674 2048 bit DSA verify in 9.98s
OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004
built on: Wed Oct 19 19:03:30 Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page 2005
options:bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) aes(partial) idea(int) blowfish(idx)
compiler: i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -fPIC -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DOPENSSL_NO_KRB5 -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -Wall -Os -mcpu=i686 -pipe -Wa,--noexecstack -DSHA1_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM
available timing options: TIMES TIMEB HZ=100 [sysconf value]
timing function used: times
sign verify sign/s verify/s
rsa 512 bits 0.0013s 0.0001s 755.0 8007.9
rsa 1024 bits 0.0071s 0.0004s 140.4 2715.6
rsa 2048 bits 0.0429s 0.0013s 23.3 792.0
rsa 4096 bits 0.2889s 0.0045s 3.5 222.5
sign verify sign/s verify/s
dsa 512 bits 0.0012s 0.0014s 839.3 698.0
dsa 1024 bits 0.0035s 0.0043s 284.3 231.9
dsa 2048 bits 0.0119s 0.0148s 84.3 67.5

[Instigater]

Tauta, luudzu paliidziibu, vajag izgriezt dotos testus uz dualcore Opteroniem, vajag vienam cilveekam referaatam kas vairaak taa kaa uz vieniigo ieskaiti priekshmetaa velk, tobish, cik dabon pa to darbu, tik arii ir, statistikai vajag izgriezt testus.

[kiwi]

Intereses pec izlaidu uz Conroe @ 3.7Ghz, bet nevaru saprast kaa rezultats var buut sliktaks par opteron @ 3GHz :D
Sys ir linux FC6 64bit, openssl ir 0.98b. Rsa 4096 bits sign/s ir ~48, bet ~57 bija uz opteron

openssl speed rsa dsa
Doing 512 bit private rsa's for 10s: 60931 512 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit public rsa's for 10s: 820354 512 bit public RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 1024 bit private rsa's for 10s: 17361 1024 bit private RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit public rsa's for 10s: 314952 1024 bit public RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: 3057 2048 bit private RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 2048 bit public rsa's for 10s: 106480 2048 bit public RSA's in 10.00s
Doing 4096 bit private rsa's for 10s: 484 4096 bit private RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 4096 bit public rsa's for 10s: 31946 4096 bit public RSA's in 10.01s
Doing 512 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 101226 512 bit DSA signs in 10.00s
Doing 512 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 84577 512 bit DSA verify in 10.01s
Doing 1024 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 36783 1024 bit DSA signs in 10.00s
Doing 1024 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 30292 1024 bit DSA verify in 10.01s
Doing 2048 bit sign dsa's for 10s: 11683 2048 bit DSA signs in 10.00s
Doing 2048 bit verify dsa's for 10s: 9608 2048 bit DSA verify in 10.01s
OpenSSL 0.9.8b 04 May 2006
built on: Mon Oct 2 04:40:49 EDT 2006
options:bn(64,64) md2(int) rc4(ptr,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) aes(partial) blowfish(ptr2)
compiler: gcc -fPIC -DOPENSSL_PIC -DZLIB -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DKRB5_MIT -I/usr/kerberos/include -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -Wall -DMD32_REG_T=int -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -Wa,--noexecstack -DMD5_ASM
available timing options: TIMES TIMEB HZ=100 [sysconf value]
timing function used: times
sign verify sign/s verify/s
rsa 512 bits 0.000164s 0.000012s 6093.1 81953.4
rsa 1024 bits 0.000576s 0.000032s 1736.1 31463.7
rsa 2048 bits 0.003274s 0.000094s 305.4 10648.0
rsa 4096 bits 0.020682s 0.000313s 48.4 3191.4
sign verify sign/s verify/s
dsa 512 bits 0.000099s 0.000118s 10122.6 8449.3
dsa 1024 bits 0.000272s 0.000330s 3678.3 3026.2
dsa 2048 bits 0.000856s 0.001042s 1168.3 959.8

[Instigater]

izmeegjini arii 32bit, mosh conroe ir 32bit procis ar paaris 64bit emulaacijas fiichaam

[kiwi]

Laidu uz 32bit win, tur vispar bija tikai ~15 rsa 4096bit sign/s, tatad 3x starpiba

Butibaa Intelim ir EM64T, kas it kaa nav ists 64bit

The EMT64 chips are still 32 bit
chips. Intel will not have any 64 bit consumer chips until next year.
EMT64 (Extended Memory Technology 64) chips allow a P4 chip to
use the same registers that a 64 bit chip accesses, so that they can use
more than the 4GB that a non-EMT64 P4 can access. As a side advantage of
this, the chip can "execute" the x86 code, but it does so through emulation
using a 32 bit thunking layer. It does not run the 64 bit OS as a 64 bit
OS, but as a thunked OS. This is slow and clumsy at best. The point I am
trying to make is that the EMT64 bit chips *ARE NOT* 64 bit chips. They are
able to use certain functions of the x86 extensions that allow it to access
the same registers, but that is all. It is *NOT* a 64 bit chip, not will it
ever be. Intel has announced that it *WILL* produce 64 bit chips next year.
I want those who are considering buying a 64 bit computer to understand that
while the EMT64 can emulate execution of the code, it is *NOT* a 64 bit
chip. Never was, never will be.

Quote:

Intel produces no consumer 64 bit chips.
The Prescott "J" model with the EMT64 designator is a Pentium 4 chip. Like
all other P4 chips, it is 32 bit. The EMT64 stands for Extended Memory
Technology, and allows the processor to use the x64 core coding to address
more than 4GB of RAM. It will emulate running the 64 bit code in Windows Xp
x64, but will run it in 32 bit mode only.



Es gan arii megjinaju BOINC optimizetu klientu uz 64bit linux, bet tur rezultati gan bija vienkarshi fantastiski salidzinot ar parasto 32bit Win un linux. Taa kaa tur viss OK.

Deretu veel kadu aplikaciju sameklet, kur varetu redzet atshkjiribu

[Kuuminsh]

Testi tas protams ir jauki... aaa kaa ar kaut kaadaam reaalaam neserveru aplikacijaam ? :)
Es nezinu.. kauchvai taadas ikdienishkjas lietas kaa arhivatori, kodeki, es nezinu... office un speeles ?


P.S w2k3 LiveCD :D Uztaisiit protams ka var.. bet nu servera OS uz LiveCD... mhh

[Instigater]

Es gan arii megjinaju BOINC optimizetu klientu uz 64bit linux, bet tur rezultati gan bija vienkarshi fantastiski salidzinot ar parasto 32bit Win un linux. Taa kaa tur viss OK.

Tu tikai njeemi optimizeetu BOINC vai optimizeetu projekta aplikaaciju? BOINC ir tikai menedzjments uz benchmarks, visu paareejo dara projekta aplikaacija.